Comments on: This is a time for heroes and we reach for the stars http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/ I should be medicated and put in a rec room with ping pong tables and hand puppets Sun, 20 May 2012 12:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cristi http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-188 Cristi Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:54:16 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-188 after sorkin left, there were only morons on the writing team... after sorkin left, there were only morons on the writing team…

]]> By: Wolfleadr http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Wolfleadr Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:52:12 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-187 To say that I'm obsessed might be stretching things a bit, but still, certainly I view these episodes with a real longing, i.e., I look at Jed Bartlet and wish we'd had HIM for the last eight years, and I delight that Barack Obama appears to have certain parallels with President Bartlet. A couple of those parallels would be a real compassion for the little man and woman who have been the basis of any prosperity my country has had over the years, and an active, involved intelligence to apply to the problems it's facing. It's always naive, I suppose, to compare and contrast a real person to a fictional character who is really too good to be true, but so far, in President Obama, I like what I see. To return to The West Wing: Toby's leaking of the presence of the secret military space shuttle. Actor Richard Schiff has said that he had issues with that. He felt that no way would Toby Ziegler have done something like that to his president; at least not without agonizing over it for quite some time (while the astronauts were running out of oxygen? Not much time to agonize, it seems to me). Your comments? To say that I’m obsessed might be stretching things a bit, but still, certainly I view these episodes with a real longing, i.e., I look at Jed Bartlet and wish we’d had HIM for the last eight years, and I delight that Barack Obama appears to have certain parallels with President Bartlet. A couple of those parallels would be a real compassion for the little man and woman who have been the basis of any prosperity my country has had over the years, and an active, involved intelligence to apply to the problems it’s facing. It’s always naive, I suppose, to compare and contrast a real person to a fictional character who is really too good to be true, but so far, in President Obama, I like what I see.
To return to The West Wing: Toby’s leaking of the presence of the secret military space shuttle. Actor Richard Schiff has said that he had issues with that. He felt that no way would Toby Ziegler have done something like that to his president; at least not without agonizing over it for quite some time (while the astronauts were running out of oxygen? Not much time to agonize, it seems to me).
Your comments?

]]> By: Cristi http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Cristi Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:16 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-176 indeed. and what makes sorkin fantastic is that your paragraph about Leo and Donna can be summed in the season two episode Noël [2.10], the one with Josh's mental breakdown. <i> [after Josh Lyman has been in therapy] Leo McGarry: How'd it go? Josh Lyman: He thinks I may have an eating disorder. And a fear of rectangles - that's not unusual, is it? </i> to put it simply: Leo and Jed are the dads i always wanted and Sam is i who i want to be. a truly genius character drama. it's nice to know i'm not the only one obsessed with it. indeed. and what makes sorkin fantastic is that your paragraph about Leo and Donna can be summed in the season two episode Noël [2.10], the one with Josh’s mental breakdown.

[after Josh Lyman has been in therapy]
Leo McGarry: How’d it go?
Josh Lyman: He thinks I may have an eating disorder. And a fear of rectangles – that’s not unusual, is it?

to put it simply: Leo and Jed are the dads i always wanted and Sam is i who i want to be. a truly genius character drama. it’s nice to know i’m not the only one obsessed with it.

]]> By: Wolfleadr http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Wolfleadr Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:38:48 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-175 Indeed, and that seems to be the consensus regarding the show: The first four seasons were fantastic, the rest were "ehhhhh..." Whoa, your disks scratched? Wow, looks like I've got a ways to go before I replace mine, then. :) Though I absolutely agree with you on any one of the cast leaving destroying the show, if someone held a gun to my head and said "ok, pick the glue who held everything together, OR ELSE.." I'd have to say it would be a real toss-up between Leo and Donna. Leo obviously with the relationship he has with Jed (as mentioned above)and his fatherly influence over everyone else. Donna, because Janel Maloney did so many little things so well, from her smallest gestures to her facial expressions. Plus the sexual chemistry between her and Josh was incendiary right from the beginning, though it took years for them to do anything about it. Tough choices, though. Indeed, and that seems to be the consensus regarding the show: The first four seasons were fantastic, the rest were “ehhhhh…”

Whoa, your disks scratched? Wow, looks like I’ve got a ways to go before I replace mine, then. :)

Though I absolutely agree with you on any one of the cast leaving destroying the show, if someone held a gun to my head and said “ok, pick the glue who held everything together, OR ELSE..” I’d have to say it would be a real toss-up between Leo and Donna. Leo obviously with the relationship he has with Jed (as mentioned above)and his fatherly influence over everyone else. Donna, because Janel Maloney did so many little things so well, from her smallest gestures to her facial expressions. Plus the sexual chemistry between her and Josh was incendiary right from the beginning, though it took years for them to do anything about it. Tough choices, though.

]]> By: Cristi http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Cristi Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:05:42 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-173 hello. they're not my screencaps, <a href=http://call-me-daisy.livejournal.com/116737.html rel="nofollow">daisy</a> is the amazing artist who created them. i saw all the extras on the dvds, they're great, a nice bonus on a truly outstanding series. i had to backup the discs twice because they keep scratching from all the rewatching. about the cast, anyone of them missing would destroy the show. which is what happened when Rob Lowe and Aaron Sorkin left after season four. the show died in great, great pains. the characters were cardboard after that, mean, selfish and bitchy all the time, no development, nothing funny, as if watching c-span :-( hello. they’re not my screencaps, daisy is the amazing artist who created them.

i saw all the extras on the dvds, they’re great, a nice bonus on a truly outstanding series. i had to backup the discs twice because they keep scratching from all the rewatching.

about the cast, anyone of them missing would destroy the show. which is what happened when Rob Lowe and Aaron Sorkin left after season four. the show died in great, great pains. the characters were cardboard after that, mean, selfish and bitchy all the time, no development, nothing funny, as if watching c-span :-(

]]> By: Wolfleadr http://schizoid.us/2011/10/25/this-is-a-time-for-heroes-and-we-reach-for-the-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Wolfleadr Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:44:21 +0000 http://schizoid.us/?p=661#comment-172 Well done. I watch the DVD's incessantly, and I never ever get tired of them. Good food, good drink, and The West Wing in my face. Nothing better. Have you looked at the interview that was done a few years ago with Aaron, Martin, Allison, Brad and John Spencer? It's on Youtube somewhere, I believe. Good stuff. Roger Reese's Lord John Marbury deserves mention here as well. He always gets me in the mood to party. More than anything else, it is the intelligence and humanity that went into this show that keeps me coming back over and over. The actors were perfectly cast and their performances were the best television I'm likely to ever see, but it indeed boils down to Aaron Sorkin's writing. John Spencer once said that he was flattered that Leo McGarry was so highly regarded by real politicians, but he also said that he'd make a great Chief of Staff as long as he had Aaron Sorkin to tell him what to say and when to say it. That says it all. Who do you think was the glue that held this show together, or do you think(I do)that any one of them missing would take too much away from the show? Well done. I watch the DVD’s incessantly, and I never ever get tired of them. Good food, good drink, and The West Wing in my face. Nothing better. Have you looked at the interview that was done a few years ago with Aaron, Martin, Allison, Brad and John Spencer? It’s on Youtube somewhere, I believe. Good stuff.
Roger Reese’s Lord John Marbury deserves mention here as well. He always gets me in the mood to party.
More than anything else, it is the intelligence and humanity that went into this show that keeps me coming back over and over. The actors were perfectly cast and their performances were the best television I’m likely to ever see, but it indeed boils down to Aaron Sorkin’s writing. John Spencer once said that he was flattered that Leo McGarry was so highly regarded by real politicians, but he also said that he’d make a great Chief of Staff as long as he had Aaron Sorkin to tell him what to say and when to say it. That says it all.

Who do you think was the glue that held this show together, or do you think(I do)that any one of them missing would take too much away from the show?

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